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| So this is a list of remakes that are for the better and for the worse, or just neutral.
These are in my opinion. And I will only name a few to start off with, then you guys can make your own list.
For the better.
Fal'makin - Fal'makin AZAIA Inquisitor(BEST REMAKE EVA!!!)
Maxxor - Maxxor Protector of Perim
Lore - Lore Ancestral Caller - Lore High Muge of the Hive
Tangath Toborn - Tangath Toborn in Training
Na'ina - Na'ina Rebel of Raopa'shakk
For the worse.
Chaor - Chaor the Fierce
Nimmie - Nimmie Expedition Overseer
Nunk'worn - Nunk'worn Assimilated( worst remake ever! )
Mock'adyn - Mock'adyn Fluidmaster(Most pointless remake ever...)
Rath'tab - Rath'tab Mind Scryer(Not worth it imo)
Headmaster Ankhyja - Headmaster Ankhyja Seeker of the Arts(Still a good card, but for the worse)
Neautral
Tangath Toborn in Training - Tangath Toborn Overworld General
Okay, so this is my list so far. Ive only done creatures, no locations or anything.
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| gnesh nunk'worn was remade to fallow the story line  and plus it gives danians fluid mophing its in no way the worst remake ever lol |
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| storyline doryline so what
i mean his ability just su cks, his stats are all lower and he looses all his counters at the end of the turn...
but like i said this is my opinion, and me being a marrillian player, i h8 that remake so much
and in case you didnt know(which you should from my vid) i despise danians, i dont like them, i dislike them
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| i think that headmaster was a good remake in some way,like that many mipedian players can be less worried about mugic.
both headmasters help the other mipedians in different way.
it would be better that the ability of the new headmaster,were on another creature maybe like sobtjek or a new muge.
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| | hey I don't like danians either but its still a awesome card even if you do lose the mugic counters it lets you save mugic counters for ability's |
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| Personally, it isn't a great version, but not a bad one either.
You forget that there are creatures, locations, mugic and attacks that let you relocate mugic counters from one creature to another... so you don't have to loose all your mugic...
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| Well new nunk is pretty bad compared to the old one...
And yeah Headmaster is still a good card, I said that in there
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| | Okay will these remakes are all your decision.....and I guarantee many people will disagree.....I have Nunk'worn Assimilated and he's great for armies with powerful danians with no mugic counters.....and everyone has a different opinion it's all based on your strategy |
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| I gotta say I agree to an extent... Chaor-Chaor: TF is very neutal to me, UW has A LOT of Element X support to make this massive, but they are mugic light so that can go ether way.
Nimmei... yeah... new Nimmei - *** matter
Nunk'Worn is great, he's designed to be a support creature, and the base is like, Because he was assimilated he can't wholly maintain his fluidmorph ability anymore, its like an Unstable Fluidmorph instead of regular fluidmorph. The fact that Danians get Ode to Obscurity make hm ungodly, and Inner Flood makes him a permanent counter passer as well, this can work for Illexia, or any other danian with a mugic abilty.
Mock'Adyn... yeah..just.... bad...
Rath'Tab... duno, was never a fan
Headmaster is totally neutral, he goes from a powerful support/combatant, to an amazing supporter, though he loses his combat ability.
Everything is really about opinion though, and what you can see being used. |
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| | Mock'adyn is a devolution. He is probably intended for mixed armies. The new Nunk'worn is a devolution but he isn't bad for a danian army especially when there is a loyal danian. The new stelgar, i say neutral. I say the new nimmei is neutral. all others are an improvement |
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| I agree with you on Rath'tab, but like Tsunai said, Headmaster is definitely Neutral.
"For the better.
Fal'makin - Fal'makin AZAIA Inquisitor(BEST REMAKE EVA!!!)
Maxxor - Maxxor Protector of Perim
Lore - Lore Ancestral Caller - Lore High Muge of the Hive
Tangath Toborn - Tangath Toborn in Training
Na'inna - Na'inna Rebel of Raopa'shakk"
Yeah, I'd agree about Na-inna too....She's just as good as an Inner Flood(her original), and her new ability can help a (for example) Tartarek Psi Overloader who's already used his Mugic....Speaking of which, you never mentioned him! His remake was definitely for the better .
"For the worse.
Chaor - Chaor the Fierce
Nimmie - Nimmie Expedition Overseer
Nunk'worn - Nunk'worn Assimilated( worst remake ever! )
Mock'adyn - Mock'adyn Fluidmaster(Most pointless remake ever...)
Rath'tab - Rath'tab Mind Scryer(Not worth it imo)
Headmaster Ankhyja - Headmaster Ankhyja Seeker of the Arts(Still a good card, but for the worse)"
Yes, Nimmei...Same with Iparu. Though, why Chaor? Chaor's Fire 10 could be added with a Nivenna RotO, and he didn't need Mugic..Plus, he's got awesome Courage and Power, I'd say Chaor's remake was for the better as well....
"Neutral
Tangath Toborn in Training - Tangath Toborn Overworld General"
His Defender ability does come in handy though...Yet, I guess he is Neutral.... |
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| CTF (Chaor) was a baaaaad remake ._. No Mugic Counters basiclly makes him useless in 1v1 and 3v3 Matches (in 3v3 you can recover however your still at a draw back)
In 1v1 You limit your self from casting ANY Mugic...that could mean they could use a mugic which destories your battle gear, then they just took something else away from you aswell! If you think "I'll give my self a WEV or Challor!" then well, its kinda a pointless battlegear in the fact that you just gave them another edge.
Along with his Stats being 90% time WORSE then the first Chaor, he is horrible...
Maxxor POP was a good remake imo...They gave a somewhat mid-strong range card a nice effect, even if they did take away his mugic counters, he is worth it. Most of the time the people with 2-3 Mugic Counters are somewhat strong fighters aswell (TTiT to name one)
Nunk'worn...Im twisted on this...My Favorite Tribe is M'arrillian...and my favorite creature was Nunk'worn...personally, I think it sucks...but I dont use Danains....
From a Bugs point of view, I think he would be great...as many people said, if you use Mugic or Abilities which move mugic counters around, he is a source for unlimited Mugics, and he can even been used as the main caster for most game plays...aslong as he is well protected (Energy is low, mine is only 35, OUCH!) besides the stats being low, his effect highly makes up for it.
AIZIA M'arrillian (Sorry, forgot how to spell his name and I dont really care for him (I have a bad feeling about the AIZIA's)) Good remake, puts to use a M'arrillian Deck that lacks Fluidmorphs or used as a nice backup in case yours die. Limits some of the stronger Mugic (the 6MC Cost of the Insta *** Mugic) that the M'arrillian Fluidmorphs are known for hiddening till the key point but still, a good remake on a not so old, card.
How come no one has talked about Lord Van Bloot?
LVBSOA (Servant of Aa'une) is GODLY...He is one of the best (and most popular) cards out at the moment...he keeps the flow of his old card effect, but adds a nice spin onto it aswell...a deck with him, he can play Multi-Roles, from being a supporter with casting Mugic, to an Attacker on the front lines, to even a Support *** (Range and Swift (Being in the Middle to Front row and attacking your oppenents Middle-Back Muge's/Supports)). He is a great great remake.
Tangath Toborn...Eh, not much of an OWer but his remake was much needed...a basiclly useless card in my view, became a counter to the stat draining decks, a nice elementalist, and a supporter, then became a very nice defender and empowerer.
Najarin FF : Good, counters the Fluidmorphs out there...the M'arrillian in me tells me to burn the card if I ever get the chance, but hey, Najarin FF is a good card, to counter a very famous build
Najarin HMoL : Eh...personally, I think they could have waited for the whole High Muge's to come out...his effect is what I think the first one should have really had...not paying as much as you should for mugic but...ok remake...effect should have happened alot sooner...didnt need to remake for him tho.
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| | I don't have a Tangeth in Training, so I can't comment on it...but I like Tangeth OW General...it's a pretty useful card in mixed armies. |
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| @Wind:
Mm, LVBSOA was a good remake(even I want him), but I think his ability can be countered with the new AU Mugic....
"CTF (Chaor) was a baaaaad remake ._. No Mugic Counters basiclly makes him useless in 1v1 and 3v3 Matches (in 3v3 you can recover however your still at a draw back)
In 1v1 You limit your self from casting ANY Mugic...that could mean they could use a mugic which destories your battle gear, then they just took something else away from you aswell! If you think "I'll give my self a WEV or Challor!" then well, its kinda a pointless battlegear in the fact that you just gave them another edge.
Along with his Stats being 90% time WORSE then the first Chaor, he is horrible..."
Alright, this is pretty much what I was expecting since this is what was said when Forged Unity first came out...Don't you think the new Kopond makes up for his lack in Mugic Counters? And Piddan? And Magmon Engulfed? There's tons of cards to make up for Chaor's "weaknesses.".
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| thare are no good or bad remakes its all just an opinion thing
like i say chaor, great remkae, but that's because i play massive aggro so that was a welcome addition to my builds
things like bloot, i know someone who despises the new bloot, but many people love him
all the remakes are for is story line!, so as long as the story makes sense with them its ok
and btw, mocadin fluid master, is actually pretty good, you just dont see it yet |
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| All I can think of with him is maybe elementalists pauldrons, or maybe gigantrooper...
And yeah it is pretty opinion orientated and they are made to fit the story, so you got a point...
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| | Gnesh I agree with your Nunk remark WORST REMAKE EVER( p.s I H8 Dainians) |
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| yes it is...
And I have some more
For the better:
Lord Van Bloot - Lord Van Bloot Servent of Aa'une(In my opinion one of the best remakes)
Rothar - Rother Forceful Negotiater
Yondaf - Yondaf Symbiotic Infector
None for the worse...
Neautral
Iparu - Iparu Metalic Ally
Nivenna - Nivenna Underworld Leiutenant
Aivenna - Aivenna Overworld Leiutenant
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| TTOG is one of the best remakes EVER! you don't know how many problems my mixed deck using him has posed for people
responsible for beating 1 mod, and another mod was saved from the build by a hair
and only because i have not yet update the attack deck, and get stat upgrades like i planned |
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| Really? I think hes pretty neautral...
But then again...
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